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An Interview
with John Fred Young by
Mike Newdeck
It’s
difficult to be unimpressed with Black Stone Cherry, their venomous
brand of modern rock meets classic and Southern rock is an intoxicating
brew. With a debut album re-released by Roadrunner after the label saw
their huge potential and a coveted support slot on the Whitesnake/Def
Leppard tour the future is looking decidedly rosy. Now with the band
taking it to a new level with the release of ‘Folklore and Superstition’
it just seems a matter of time before everyone catches on.
Mike caught up with drummer John Fred Young to find out how this
Kentucky mob have been frying high in recent times.
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“How you
doin’” Young hollers in the deepest southern accent known to man “I’m
doing great myself, we’re just about to do two home shows here in
Kentucky and we’re also doing a cd release party right now, it’s been
kinda hectic. We’re also doing a fundraiser show for deprived children,
five dollars goes to Toys for Tots…it’s a lot of work!”
Usually
the band is hard at work, whether it be gigging or recording and it was
no different with the debut album. Originally released independently the
band’s profile was only raised after it was re-released by Roadrunner.
“I’ll
tell you what” he explains, “Roadrunner are the biggest independent
label in the world and many bands have had success from independents
without going down the major label route. I admire the label; they’re on
the scale of a major. The album was recorded in our hometown and prior
to getting signed with Roadrunner we hadn’t been out of it! My father,
Richard, who played guitar for the Kentucky Headhunters actually
produced the album along with a local engineer. The albums been around
for a while now, but without Roadrunner we would never have got out of
our hometown and come to the UK or Canada. In the fall we’re even back
again to do a headlining tour in the UK, so it’s been amazing!”
The debut
album itself was a great introduction to Black Stone Cherry. With their
self-penned hard-hitting modern take on southern rock Black stone Cherry
made a lot of new friends after they signed with Roadrunner. With a
wealth of songs, it was slightly strange that they chose to record
‘Shape of Things’ previously recorded by The Yardbirds.
“Man we
just love that song, it’s great” the drummer enthuses “some songs just
do it for you and this one was good enough but obscure enough for us to
be able to include it on our album. We were fans of the band, and it
wasn’t a song that had been played to death so it felt comfortable.
There’s a funny story attached to that song though” he continues “we
were at the Classic Rock magazine awards and Jeff beck was there after
we were presented with an award and he went up to Chris and told him
that he really loved our version of Shape of Things……Chris was blown
away!”
John Fred
Young’s father Richard who obviously has had a huge influence on him
musically and spiritually, produced the debut album itself. Young
explains.
“His
influence was major” he offers “he turned us on to a lot of the music
that we wouldn’t necessarily have heard being where we were. In our
practice house on the farm here they used to put up posters of all the
rock icons such as Skynrd, Cream and The Beatles. The posters insulated
the building and kept the heat in. We practiced there; my dad and my
uncle used to let us. It had no address, so if it caught fire the fire
brigade would never be able to get there. That house, the Headhunters
and that house have had a massive influence on us. As a result of my
father we respected the blues, Motown and bluegrass roots that now come
out of our music”.
Black
Stone Cherry recently opened on the Def Leppard, Whitesnake tour. This
took their music to a whole new audience by all accounts the tour was a
success, was there any difficulties caused my the members of the other
bands? Young fills in the gaps.
“They
treated us just horrible” he jokes “man, it was awesome, they were just
great to us, every one of those guys, they were just so nice to us man!
One word would describe that tour…classy! It was so cool getting a hand
for those guys. They just had no egos at all, I suppose because they’ve
been doing it so long. Both bands were amazing on stage. But it was so
cool just hanging out with them, talking about everyday stuff.”
Hanging
out was a highlight but clearly the playing was also incredible.
“Yeah! It
was absolutely amazing I can tell you” he recalls “the bottom of the
arena floor was totally full for us every night, and we played quite
soon after the doors opened. In the States when you play sometimes the
opening band gets ignored, but the British audiences received us really
well. The meet and greets that we did wre amazing; we love meeting the
fans, in the bar, arena or anywhere.
A few
strings would have been pulled to get Black Stone Cherry on that tour.
“Yeah
certainly, but it all worked out” he recounts excitedly “ I met Joe
Elliot at the Classic Rock awards and that started the thing rolling,
obviously we had some help from our management Helter Skelter and it all
came together. Everyone thought that we would bring something to the
table on that tour. Talking of tours we’re back in the fall for another
UK tour with Sevendust and The Answer, they’re a great band.
The
attention given to Black Stone Cherry by the media has increased
significantly as a result of the band gaining a higher profile and that
can be difficult to handle. Fred says that the band have taken it all in
their stride.
“ We love
it, all the attention” he barks “we’re down to earth and don’t have big
heads, we’ll do any interview going and do anything to get the bands
name out there in a really positive way, we want our music heard. Things
are going well for us so we just keep it going.”
Getting
the music out there to the non-believers is essential in order for the
band to increase its popularity. The music itself has garnered praise as
a result of its originality and the need for a new niche in the hard
rock genre. Other bands and producers have quickly cottoned on to this.
Black Stone Cherry has natural sound that is far from contrived.
“Well
when we first started out,” he explains, “we never wanted to sound like
anybody, we were hugely influenced by Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Black
Sabbath and Skynrd. I mean obviously you’ve got band like Wolfmother and
Jet who recreated a scene for people to latch onto, they brought back a
bit of the 60’s and 70’s. We appreciated what they did, but we came at
it from a different angle and it allowed other bands from the past to
become listened to again. From AC/DC through to blues and soul which
influenced us…. suddenly it was ok to be a bit retro!
Our sound
was never a conscious effort, it just happened; perhaps we wanted to be
different. We’ll always be compared to Skynrd because that’s where we
come from…southern rock is the norm.”
‘Folklore
and Superstition’ has recently hit the record stores and any accusation
that the band have turned tail and moved away from the style of the
debut can be put to bed immediately, although the overall sound has more
of a classic rock feel to it. Fred agrees.
“ Yeah,
we had Bob Marlette involved on this one” he explains “when he came down
to check us out, we told him that we wanted to retain our identity and
that he wasn’t going to change us. He went along with it, saying that he
just wanted to make things better. His theory was that we were going to
dig up more bones from the back yard than you thought you had. As a
result we looked deeper into the things that were around us. There’s
some amazing stuff around to see, whether it’s a landmark in London or
something more local like Mammoth caves near us, which is the biggest
underground cave system in the world. So we started writing songs about
stuff around us, like ‘The Ghost of Floyd Collins’, he was a cave
explorer back in the nineteen hundreds and got trapped after he tried to
dig and join two sets of caves together. He died and his ghost is said
to remain in the caves. By writing about things like that we preserve
the local history as well as engraving our own identity on the songs.”
The whole
process has brought a glut of these type of songs to the table, from
‘Blind Man’ through to ‘Reverend Wrinkle’ and ‘Rain Wizard’ from the
debut.
Ironically ‘Blind man’ bucks the trend. Fred explains
“‘Blind
Man is actually a song about not overlooking those less fortunate than
ourselves” he confesses “it’s positive, the video was actually shot in
an old Sanatorium at a tuberculosis hospital in Kentucky, it was a
really tragic place, sixty thousand people died there. We wanted to page
homage to those people when we shot the video…they were treated like
lepers and herded out of town”
As well
as the tragedy, Young reveals that the song is also about someone that
he knew. Something he consequently was not prepared to talk about.
For
poignancy ‘The Things My Father Said’ wins hands down in the emotion
stakes, another personal experience from a member of the band?
“These
people we met had just lost their father” the drummer remembers “ and we
thought that we write a song about fathers, as mothers or grandmothers
seemed to have the monopoly on song content, everyone has a father
figure and the importance cannot be underestimated. Everyone in the band
still has their dad around….it’s really important.”
Bob
Marlette produces the album with Young’s father Richard as Executive
producer. Kevin Shirley mixed the first Marlette the new one.
“It’s
great, because we get ideas and input from lots of different directions”
he continues “we all play each others instruments as well, which adds to
the mix, so if Chris is struggling with an idea on the guitar, then I’ll
grab it and do my interpretation.”
So this
forms the basis for the songs?
“Well
yeah basically” he agrees, “all four of us contribute and write the
songs and the music. We get in the practice house, shut the door and
start writing. For this album we wrote for four months, hell some nights
we were there until the sun came up. The songs come out unique because
everyone puts their bit into it, all their emotion and everything.”
The pre
production and writing of an album usually means that some songs are
discarded.
“ Hell
yeah! It’s really difficult” he confesses “we had about forty songs
written, we whittled them down to the ones that made the album and even
then we still love the songs we left out, we have a massive back
catalogue of unused songs. They’ll probably appear on itunes or b-sides
and e.p’s.”
John Fred
Young clearly enjoys his trade as a drummer, something evident from the
band’s stage show, but wasn’t he tempted to play guitar or sing?
“My Uncle
taught me to play the drums” he reminisces, “He drummed for the Kentucky
Head-hunters, he’s a bad-ass man I’m telling you, check him out on You
tube. But I mean, I play drums but we all do backing vocals I can play
the guitar but man I suck! So I leave it to someone else.”
“My Uncle
really influenced my playing style along with Mitch Mitchell and of
course John Bonham and Ginger Baker. Then there’s also the stack of
blues drummers that I love. Man there’s so many. I tell ya something
though, I make a lot of noise when I drumming, shouting screaming…and of
course the stick noises that you hear on the album”
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John
Fred Young is the backbeat to one of rock music’s most enthusiastic
young rock bands. Southern rock with a twist if you will and coming to a
town near you soon. Check them out live, you won’t be disappointed! |